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Jeremy Berger's avatar

Great essay Alex. As I navigate my relationship with AI it's helpful to hear how you're encountering this digital Other. How you're living. How you're doing family and community. I felt dizzy reading the part about McKenna's prediction—you know, the way an insight connects with some internal hunch still out of awareness and tilts you sideways. The nausea of feeling change.

I'm using AI (GPT, Claude, NotebookLM) for all kinds of things where I need an assistant. Incredible. My PT wasn't helping for my knees so I built a plan with AI that's already working. My hard line is anything that feels connected to my soul. I'm concerned that AI—and technology generally—will inhabit us if we create space in those places that make us uniquely human. Heidegger wrote an important essay about relating to technology...subject of an upcoming piece.

Much love from Colorado.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

That feels like an extremely healthy and thoughtful hardline. I'll admit that I used to place myself similarly but have recently softened my stance regarding AI supporting the soul. But I agree it's a potentially slippery, dehumanizing path. Can't wait to read the Heidegger piece, sounds juicy. And thank you, my friend.

Tara Rae Behr's avatar

Alex, this is a beautiful essay on facing the quickly moving AI revolution. I have read through many of your articles, and they have deeply nourished me in this time.

I appreciate the clarity and precision you bring into your relationship with technology, and how you are looking squarely at this reality forming in the human collective.

I noticed that I personally would not want to have AI as a consistent base for dreamworld analysis. I would feel concerned that I would sidestep the sensory organic process of encountering the underworld and the other sentient beings who come through the night, on their own terms.

I have a bias here after years of working mine and others' dreams in Aspen Groves, Deserts, along Rivers, and deep in the woods with the Animas Valley Institute. From my experience, when dreams are worked with in a more organic way, the themes, beings, truths and myths that come through are wildly unique to the individual and the beings in the dream.

I suppose I also feel concerned about the flattening of the dream here through intellect, rather than through a robust depth of sensory perception.

Overall however, I appreciate this essay, and your willingness to share your relationship to technology throughout your lifespan, along with ways that we as people may be attuned to utilizing it in balanced ways.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

That’s an excellent point, and I deeply appreciate you bringing your perspective and experience into this topic, Tara. I would describe myself as familiar with the basics of Jungian dream analysis, but other than that, I’m not the most knowledgeable and haven’t gone as deep working with dreams as I have in other modalities.

I’ve mainly used Claude to explore recurring content through a Jungian analytical lens - it's been helpful to have an easy, quick space to share amid a busy day, when I don’t have as much time for the reflection/analysis/therapy as I once did.

But your note is hitting me just right, making me realize I should hold these interpretations lightly and not bypass the organic discovery process. You're now the second person to recently recommend Plotkin’s dreamwork to me. Thank you; for reading these essays, and for dropping in here.

Tara Rae Behr's avatar

Alex, thank you for the reply.

Jeremy Berger and I recently applied for this course:

https://www.animas.org/offerings/870/soulcentric-dreamwork-intensive-august-2025/ If you could make it, it would be wild to see you there.

Plotkin's dreamwork is a miraculous, strange, and numinous adventure.

I can see that getting a brief Jungian analysis of dreams could also be helpful in the midst of a very full life. I hear that.

If you haven't listened to this yet, it's a pretty potent conversation on AI: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/so-you-want-to-be-a-sorcerer-in-the-age-of/id1465445746?i=1000620936715

Thank you again for your writing and the spiritual, emotional, and political depth you've created on your Substack.

With care,

Tara

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Oof, that retreat looks amazing, BC.. I wish! I had actually started that episode a while back, but never finished it. Thanks for the recs. Sending all my love

Erin Shetron's avatar

this is one of the smartest pieces I’ve read on AI, which is generally a topic I hesitate to indulge out of sheer anxiety. but this feels like a really balanced approach to embracing the usefulness of AI, fully rejecting the bad, and using this moment to deepen our understanding of our human purpose and the gifts we can offer the world. thank you so much for writing it, alex.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Aw thank you, Erin <3

Jibran el Bazi's avatar

Really, can only say "Amen" to this. But to expand a bit ;) Similar insights led me to "abandon" a lot of online stuff and start selling physical card decks for the last few years, as well as start in-person coaching as well. I also remember a blog post I wrote in 2019, where I put forth a "Humanity first" insight (for me an insight, many others had that already), where I argued that the focus has been too much on technology to "save us from a future of suffering," but actually it's our humanity that "saves us" and not only save us in the future but that our humanity "now" is the thing we are missing. In any case, before I ramble on more in the comment section, good stuff Alex. Oh, and if there was any doubt, your kid has an amazing example of a loving & accepting human being to raise them.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Humanity now, yes. What types of cards were you selling, like tarot? Thank you so much for this, Jibran.

Jibran el Bazi's avatar

They vary a bit between them, but of a mix between oracle-like cards and introspective/insight cards decks. I'm selling five different ones atm, and I made a new one specifically for coaches (which I'm in the process of creating media for). All but one deck is in Dutch, though. You probably can't read Dutch, but you can see the imagery at kunstvanzingeving[dot]nl at least.

MM's avatar

This really hit home. I come from the other side of the mirror — also spent years building inside the attention economy before realizing how deeply it rewired our nervous systems.

I just wrote something similar about needing a collective reset — literally proposing we “ban social media for a day.” Reading your piece felt like finding the parallel track to the same truth: that the next real revolution isn’t technological, it’s human. https://humancurious.substack.com/p/lets-ban-social-media

Grateful for voices like yours that can hold both the awe and the unease of this moment. Would love to compare notes sometime on how we might help guide this transition with a little more sanity and soul.

Andrew Wilkins's avatar

" Stepping back from what everyone calls The World has let me live in the actual world right in front of me, where meaning and impact exist at a different scale and depth."

What a great line. I've noticed this myself recently. I have tried to reduce my engagement with so many of the things trying to grab my attention and as a result, I feel much more present. Instead of using downtime to scroll on some app, I close my eyes for 3 minutes and follow my breath or open up a substack and jot down whatever is on my mind. I feel so much more engaged with the world around me as a result.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Love this interruption and intentionality, Andrew. And thank you!

Andrew Wilkins's avatar

Of course. Excited to keep reading!

Vicki Beare's avatar

Wow! Thanks so much for putting all this into glorious words. Really resonant, relevant and inspiring at the same time. LOVED it 😻

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Thank you, Vicki <3

Josh Clement's avatar

Any prompts that you like that help with dream analysis?

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

"I'd like to share a dream I had and would appreciate your analysis from a Jungian perspective. Please approach this as if you were a master depth psychologist with expertise in Jungian symbolism, psychodynamic patterns, and somatic awareness. Rather than immediately interpreting everything, please ask thoughtful questions that help me explore the symbols and emotions in my own way. I'm interested in understanding what this dream might reveal about my unconscious patterns, shadow aspects, and deeper psychological development. Feel free to draw connections to archetypal themes and psychological dynamics, while maintaining a spirit of exploration rather than definitive interpretation."

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Try something like that - or tweak to add other modalities and thing that might be important to you, and LMK how it goes

Nicola T's avatar

Absolutely with you on this one, on every level.

I held an indifferent/mistrustful attitude to AI, also born of an entrenched puritanism (and being a busy off-grid homeschool mother), until earlier this year.

2 things really changed my viewpoint of AI's potential: I wrote a grant proposal for some farmer friends of ours, which I did 90% on my own steam but relied on Claude for the 10% that would have otherwise left me bogged/brain drained.

The other thing is that we started using Grok about a month ago, which gives very detailed and practical info about stuff the other platforms won't touch - like actual investment advice, medical information, and some spot-on advice about weaning the baby.

That said, I still view the fruits of insights and intuition as a higher pathway through life decisions, but AI certainly helps with the gritty stuff when you need it. Thank you for this post!

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

I have to admit, Nicola, I feel some relief hearing this report from you - because, yes, *you* are actually living the off-grid, sustainable, inspirational vision!

I've also found that AI is insanely helpful for non-profit work and can hopefully streamline what is sometimes an inefficient space. Grant writing case in point. And you are now the second person to recommend Grok for even more free-flowing responses, need to check it out.

Thank you so much, sending love

Barbara Schwartzbach's avatar

Spot on Alex, worth the wait to read what has been peculating in your life. ❤️🙏❤️ a-lot to think on.

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Thank you for reading, Barbara, appreciate you so much <3

Bowen Dwelle's avatar

"In my experience, the path to developing these essential human capacities lies in what many traditions call the awakening process."

Great piece Alex. I hadn't realized how much we shared in terms of background. I had a recent experience with AI that helped to cement some similar conclusions. It was also a deep learning experience in terms of my relationships wth both addiction and intuition.

https://bowendwelle.substack.com/p/i-became-an-ai-sex-slave

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

Thank you, Bowen, I appreciate it

Michelle Dixon, Ph.D.'s avatar

I’ve been off Substack for a while obviously but I really loved this essay and especially resonated with “ I’ve realized the most profound transformations happen face-to-face, heart-to-heart, in the spaces where people can actually see and touch each other.”

I’m in a similar role as you, as a therapist, facilitator, writer and I relate to how you use AI and your thoughts about it and I also see how awakening is not just some spiritual process that requires a specific paradigm, but rather an evolutionary process which science will catch up to eventually. Increasingly my clients want to see me face-to-face and I felt an inclination to run a local community support group for my clients and others and so that is happening too….

And whilst I treasure some of my friends who live far away and overseas, I am finding that I am almost never on social media, and my belief is that it will not last as part of the human experiment. Whereas AI will definitely have a place in supporting people through their emotional and mental landscapes…and in a strange way I think that’s why I am seeing more people, because I do so much somatic work, and people come in with self knowledge and education — but what they are lacking is a way to ground all of that in the felt sense, and how their bodies move, and how their fascia and breath respond to their emotional challenges.

So in a weird way, I feel like we are on track as a species, at least in some regards! The more we have access to information and a mirror (AI) to help us understand our own minds cognitively perhaps, the more we might be prepared to let the real work be relational and somatic — at least I’m beginning to see this in my own work as people turn more often for body based sessions and seek community building. Of course I’m totally biased. Anyway, thanks for this great essay!

Christin's avatar

I enjoyed reading this immensely. I found it simultaneously illuminating and confronting.

I’ve been in ostrich mode about AI until recently. Mostly because I just didn’t know what to do with all the overwhelm I felt about it. But I’ve started using AI and processing through the emotions of it all (NOT with AI 😉) and slowly coming to a place of acceptance about the changing world.

With fingers crossed, I hope you’re right about what people will need going forward. What you described is right up my alley in my work with clients. So that gives me a glimmer of hope.

Glenn DeVore's avatar

Alex, this is a beautifully layered reflection that seems equal parts memoir, mirror, and a deeply important call inward. I resonated most with your arc around awakening, especially the thread that encompasses ancient traditions like Theravāda and Advaita and brings them forward toward a grounded secular language of realization. That same transition, while honoring the depth of lineage and then finding new forms of articulation, feels central to my own work as well.

Your emphasis on attention, on presence as a spiritual act, and on the deeply human need to sit with paradox rather than solve it… yes! Especially this: “This movement is evolving so rapidly that I think it’s time we graduate beyond dismissive labels like ‘woo’ altogether.” Double yes! That invitation to take consciousness seriously, as both an inner revolution and a practical resilience, feels more needed than ever.

Thank you for the honesty and integrity in this piece. The tone of it felt less like a stance and more like a conversation with the soul. Thank you again. I’m grateful that you shared it.

Grant Castillou's avatar

It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with only primary consciousness will probably have to come first.

What I find special about the TNGS is the Darwin series of automata created at the Neurosciences Institute by Dr. Edelman and his colleagues in the 1990's and 2000's. These machines perform in the real world, not in a restricted simulated world, and display convincing physical behavior indicative of higher psychological functions necessary for consciousness, such as perceptual categorization, memory, and learning. They are based on realistic models of the parts of the biological brain that the theory claims subserve these functions. The extended TNGS allows for the emergence of consciousness based only on further evolutionary development of the brain areas responsible for these functions, in a parsimonious way. No other research I've encountered is anywhere near as convincing.

I post because on almost every video and article about the brain and consciousness that I encounter, the attitude seems to be that we still know next to nothing about how the brain and consciousness work; that there's lots of data but no unifying theory. I believe the extended TNGS is that theory. My motivation is to keep that theory in front of the public. And obviously, I consider it the route to a truly conscious machine, primary and higher-order.

My advice to people who want to create a conscious machine is to seriously ground themselves in the extended TNGS and the Darwin automata first, and proceed from there, by applying to Jeff Krichmar's lab at UC Irvine, possibly. Dr. Edelman's roadmap to a conscious machine is at https://arxiv.org/abs/2105.10461

Alex Olshonsky's avatar

If anything, I'd describe myself as idealist-leaning in terms of consciousness theories, which sounds quite different from this, which is materialist. While not quite related to what I wrote in this essay, I appreciate you sharing it

Grant Castillou's avatar

I believe the physical world is a valid aspect of reality, but not the only aspect. There are spiritual and other aspects as well, I'm sure. But I can't deny science's success at explaining many aspects of the physical world, and the success of its applications. Surgery before anesthesia wasn't fun, for example. In the same vein, I believe there is a physical aspect to consciousness, because when the brain is physically damaged in certain areas, it consistently produces the same kind of damage to consciousness, e.g. damage to certain occipital areas of the brain produces the same kind of damage to vision in all patients with that kind of brain damage. Science has been good at explaining physical phenomena that are consistent and reproducible. You know which brain theory I support.

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